Curse

Red Sonya · Jul 11, 2009, 06:58 PM // 18:58

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Till this day no valid counter arguments can be given.

lol do you know how many times that stale and dead horse quote has been stated?

There has been a valid counter and it's "Anet said NO!" and the other is "There are no resources for it and Anet gave reasons for not doing so plenty of times that are valid because ANET SAID SO! (remember the law of your mother or father? When the said something it was law and the rule?) well Anet is your mother here

" Anet is putting all excess resources into GW2, not some silliness to add extra heroes to an already EASY game. No use making it EASIER you already have it TOO EASY as it is. So, yep plenty of valid counter claims of FACTS which are much bigger and higher than arguements. FACTS are truisms, arguments are nothing more than fiddle faddle between two or more idiots.

Gun Pierson · Jul 11, 2009, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

There has been a valid counter and it's "Anet said NO!" and the other is "There are no resources for it and Anet gave reasons for not doing so plenty of times that are valid because ANET SAID SO! (remember the law of your mother or father? When the said something it was law and the rule?) well Anet is your mother here

" Anet is putting all excess resources into GW2, not some silliness to add extra heroes to an already EASY game. No use making it EASIER you already have it TOO EASY as it is. So, yep plenty of valid counter claims of FACTS which are much bigger and higher than arguements. FACTS are truisms, arguments are nothing more than fiddle faddle between two or more idiots.

Anet my mother lol, what are you on? We are customers and play a game made by Anet. If we think the product can be improved, you're not gonna stop us expressing our views and arguments. You're welcome to state your counter arguments, but they're pretty weak so far.

No can be changed to yes, Anet proved that many times in the past so you can't blame people for trying.

And do your howework better, the system already exists, the quote is here somewhere on guru.

Bryant Again · Jul 11, 2009, 10:50 PM // 22:50

The thing with ANet saying "no" to things like extra storage and hairstylists was "we can't because it's not possible". Well, apparently now it's possible to do those things, apparently.

I feel that the 7 heroes situation is much more of a "we don't want to" kind of thing. Many a developer is stubborn, and ANet isn't a whole lot different.

Honestly I'd only want 7 heroes for vanity purposes. I can already see 99.5% of the game by myself, and all I need for the other .5% is a friend to join my party - who can leave at the start of joining the area if he so wishes, since heroes stay.

Daesu · Jul 12, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

"There are no resources for it and Anet gave reasons for not doing so plenty of times that are valid because ANET SAID SO! (remember the law of your mother or father? When the said something it was law and the rule?) well Anet is your mother here

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In that case, since our "mother" (ANet) relies on us (their customers) so she can continue existing, all the more she should pay attention to what we have been telling her or one day she may just cease to exist.

DreamWind · Jul 12, 2009, 01:28 AM // 01:28

I say they charge you all for 7 heroes. I'd be happy with you all losing money.

Master Knightfall · Jul 12, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Well I hope they never allow 7 heroes myself. As Red said it's already way too easy with just 3. No use adding gasoline onto the fire.

Mokeiro · Jul 12, 2009, 08:42 AM // 08:42

Players: ANET pls give us 7 heroes!
ANET: We can't, it's impossible

Players: ANET pls give us 7 heroes!
ANET: We can't, for the sake of pugs

Players: ANET pls give us 7 heroes!
ANET: We can't, all our efforts are on GW2

Players: ANET pls give us 7 heroes!
ANET: We can't, too many variables

Players: ANET pls give us 7 heroes!
ANET: We can't, it's deep inside the code and could be dangerous

Players: ANET pls give us 7 heroes!
ANET: We can't, the game is not designed that way

Players: ANET pls give us 7 heroes!
ANET: We can't, God kill a kitten everytime anet listen to their customers.

Some stupid nerfs after and a "big" update

ANET: Fellow players, we are happy to announce we have raised heroes cap to 7 per player, now you can use full party heroes, oh, btw, to do that don't forget to move your ass to the online store and pay us 9.99$.

Players: ........................

Did the previous story remember you something?

superraptors · Jul 12, 2009, 09:08 AM // 09:08

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

Well I hope they never allow 7 heroes myself. As Red said it's already way too easy with just 3. No use adding gasoline onto the fire.

so your saying u wouldnt rather breeze through areas easier, thats like gimping yourself....

Darkobra · Jul 12, 2009, 09:42 AM // 09:42

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Originally Posted by superraptors

so your saying u wouldnt rather breeze through areas easier, thats like gimping yourself....

Some people like to play a game and not watch it.

Abedeus · Jul 12, 2009, 10:07 AM // 10:07

The stupidest argument ever.

"It would be too easy".

Uhm. Hello? For UW/FoW/DoA, we already can use 6 necro heroes + 1 player, 4 paragons, necro healer and an order dervish. You just need a second character, either your alt account or a friend with heroes.

Besides, wouldn't 8 players be EVEN EASIER? Oh, wait, no, because people are idiots and most of them are worse than AI...

UnChosen · Jul 12, 2009, 10:08 AM // 10:08

Its amazing some of the people supporting this is also the people who go on the other threads whining and moaning about how PvE skills and SF is ruining PvE and making the game too easy or how OP skills are making it impossible to find a group because everyone are doing farm builds....and yet going with 7 AI and watching them blow stuff up is perfectly fine.

I won't name names but the amount of personal agendas is just ridiculous.

As for 7 heroes, I don't really care anymore since 3 heroes are enough for pretty much everything. 7 heroes won't make much of a difference except removing the last player from duo discordway. Since GW is nearly dead anyways might as well let heroway take over the last few pug areas. The funny thing is that people will probably be complaining about overpowered assassins/monk soloing while they are playing "balanced" with 7 "other".

Sword Hammer Axe · Jul 12, 2009, 12:30 PM // 12:30

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Besides, wouldn't 8 players be EVEN EASIER? Oh, wait, no, because people are idiots and most of them are worse than AI...

Damn straight. I still wouldn't mind 7 heroes. Wouldn't make much difference really. Besides if people think it's too easy they can always just take henchies. No one's forcing you to make it easier on yourself. Hell I even went out in a party of 6 instead of 8 while vq'ing that grawl area to the east of Droknar's Forge because it's too easy a place with 8-man team to me ^^

Nerel · Jul 12, 2009, 12:41 PM // 12:41

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

The thing with ANet saying "no" to things like extra storage and hairstylists was "we can't because it's not possible". Well, apparently now it's possible to do those things, apparently.

The difference between "not possible" and "possible" is a $9.99 US micro transaction. Credit cards, making the impossible, possible.

Improvavel · Jul 12, 2009, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Besides, wouldn't 8 players be EVEN EASIER? Oh, wait, no, because people are idiots and most of them are worse than AI...

I guess this exactly their argument, with some variations.

Variation 1 - they suck and so, even with heroes, they need other players.

Variation 2 - they can't make friends for one reason and another, so the only way people would play with them is if they are forced by the game.

Variation 3 - they like to monk. Monking for AI isn't as fun. Monks also used to have a certain power before the advent of heroes they lost since, because every party needed a healer.

Variation 4 - you can't be l33t without an audience to marvel to your armor + weapon combo.

It interesting that they say that they want to play with other people since it is fun that way, but then the "others" that play with h/h don't think the same, and prefer to play alone.

I guess those that prefer to play alone are very uninteresting, so why would it be more fun to play with someone like that in the first place?

I can hardly stand playing GW on my own anymore, but I wouldn't pay with the large majority of the population out there, but I would certainly play with a few that are quite interesting people.

Of course those, have no problem finding a party with humans...

Improvavel · Jul 12, 2009, 01:25 PM // 13:25

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Originally Posted by UnChosen

Its amazing some of the people supporting this is also the people who go on the other threads whining and moaning about how PvE skills and SF is ruining PvE and making the game too easy or how OP skills are making it impossible to find a group because everyone are doing farm builds....and yet going with 7 AI and watching them blow stuff up is perfectly fine. Apparently being able to /dance while playing the game is balanced while.

Because when you play with other people you don't see other stuff blowing even faster?

Last time I checked you had to move for heroes move - so you can as well pretend to be playing in a party of 8 people.

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As for 7 heroes, I don't really care anymore since 3 heroes are enough for pretty much everything. 7 heroes won't make much of a difference except removing the last player from duo discordway. Since GW is nearly dead anyways might as well let heroway take over the last few pug areas. The funny thing is that people will probably be complaining about overpowered assassins/monk soloing while they are playing "balanced" with 7 "other".

Again, when you are with heroes/henchies, you play your build and when you are with other people you play the other people build as well?

When I play earh shaker warrior with H/H, I go in micro PS on myself, call targets and press my skills to kill mobs.

When I play earh shaker warrior with 7 other people, I go, ask for PS on me if monk is slow, call targets and press my skills to kill mobs.

You do it differently?

volsung · Jul 12, 2009, 01:30 PM // 13:30

i have just one request/suggestion IF anet do make it possible to use 7heros, then please remove any suggestion that guildwars is a MMO, because in my mind human teams will truely become a thing of the past

Sword Hammer Axe · Jul 12, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by volsung

i have just one request/suggestion IF anet do make it possible to use 7heros, then please remove any suggestion that guildwars is a MMO, because in my mind human teams will truely become a thing of the past

I will join just as much up with human teams as I would with the 3-man hero thing. Hell even as much as before heroes were introduced XD

Dawgboy · Jul 12, 2009, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by volsung

i have just one request/suggestion IF anet do make it possible to use 7heros, then please remove any suggestion that guildwars is a MMO, because in my mind human teams will truely become a thing of the past

In my mind human teams became a thing of the past about 3 years ago.
Even 7 crappy henchmen can outperform the average pug, so don't go blaming heroes if you can't find a party.

Trub · Jul 12, 2009, 05:29 PM // 17:29

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Originally Posted by Dawgboy

In my mind human teams became a thing of the past about 3 years ago.
Even 7 crappy henchmen can outperform the average pug, so don't go blaming heroes if you can't find a party.

^ Took the words right out of my mouth.
The real question should be....
What has happened to the players?
It is sad when someone can place a skill template on a hero, and by golly..that hero can run that bar better than a human (PUG) player???
Abbasi the hench in NF can solo 2 mandrigors, before the 'tank' that joined your group can get a hit in??
*sigh*
I'm going back to my guild hall.
gg

Sword Hammer Axe · Jul 12, 2009, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by Improvavel

I guess those that prefer to play alone are very uninteresting, so why would it be more fun to play with someone like that in the first place?

And here you need to define what makes people interessting. I'm curious of nature, and I actually find the people that it's seemingly hard to communicate with more interessting than the people who aren't, solely because they are tougher to interact with :P The more secretive a person is, the more secrets that person ought to have >